Oct. 12, 2025

From Hormozi to Liquid Death: 7 Marketing & Business Lessons You Can’t Afford to Ignore

From Hormozi to Liquid Death: 7 Marketing & Business Lessons You Can’t Afford to Ignore

When two seasoned marketers like Eric Siu (Single Grain, Leveling Up) and Neil Patel (NP Digital) sit down to talk about business, you don’t just get marketing tips—you get an unfiltered window into how billion-dollar ideas are born, scaled, and sometimes derailed.

In a recent episode of Levelling up podcast with Eric Siu and Neil Patel, the duo covered everything from Alex Hormozi’s record-breaking book launch to the implosion of traditional agency holding companies. The conversation was part analysis, part war story, and part blueprint for navigating business in 2025.

Here are the seven most powerful lessons from the episode—with commentary, context, and real implications for early-stage entrepreneurs.


1. Rate Cuts Could Spark a Bull Run in SMB Marketing

As the Fed hints at interest rate cuts, both Eric and Neil believe that SMBs (small and midsize businesses) will be the primary beneficiaries. Lower borrowing costs mean more aggressive ad spend, especially in digital channels like Meta and Google.

“When borrowing becomes cheaper, you’re going to see more marketing dollars move back into the ecosystem—especially for SMBs,” said Neil.

💡 Takeaway: If you're a freelancer, agency, or SaaS startup serving SMBs, prepare to scale your marketing services now. Tailwinds are coming.


2. Enterprise Clients Are Losing Faith in Holding Companies

While SMBs might surge with macroeconomic shifts, enterprise marketing is undergoing a different kind of shake-up. Big holding companies like Dentsu, WPP, and Publicis are reportedly divesting, merging, or cutting staff—and clients are noticing.

“The clients are nervous,” Neil explained. “They’re shifting from these bloated, debt-heavy agencies to independents who are more agile.”

💡 Takeaway: If you're an independent agency or solo consultant, now is the time to position yourself as a trusted alternative to bloated incumbents.


3. The Hormozi Book Launch Was a $105M Masterclass in Direct Marketing

Alex Hormozi’s recent book launch (valued at $105.5M in sales) was, in Eric’s words, “the most sophisticated info marketing play I’ve ever seen.

From the $6,000 book bundle to a Guinness World Record, everything was engineered for virality, authority, and conversion.

“He used Russell Brunson’s ascension model at the highest level,” Eric said. “Scarcity, urgency, spectacle—it was all there.”

💡 Takeaway: If you're launching a product—think like a marketer, not just a founder. Packaging and positioning are as powerful as the product itself.


4. Liquid Death Is Making a Classic Brand Mistake

Liquid Death has exploded from edgy water startup to a $700M+ brand. But their recent expansion into energy drinks and hydration packets has some, like Nick Shackleford, calling it “textbook brand dilution.”

“You build loyalty by standing for one thing,” said Eric. “Red Bull stuck to one product for 40 years—and did $11 billion in revenue.”

💡 Takeaway: As a founder, don’t expand your product line just to expand your TAM. Defend your positioning. Go deep, not wide.


5. People Hate Course Sellers (But Not for the Reason You Think)

A viral LinkedIn post called out the current wave of “M&A bros” and “no-money-down” course peddlers as modern-day MLMs. The problem? They’re selling perceived progress, not actual results.

“Most course sellers aren’t operators—they’re just selling dopamine hits,” Eric explained.

Yet both Eric and Neil agree—courses can be incredibly valuable when they're built by operators, for operators. Alex Hormozi’s free education model is an example of doing it right.

💡 Takeaway: If you’re going to sell education, make sure you’re also doing the thing you teach. Otherwise, it’s just snake oil with a stripe account.


6. AI Will Widen the Gap Between the Curious and the Complacent

Whether it was Brian Armstrong at Coinbase firing employees who didn’t use AI tools—or Eric’s policy of not hiring candidates who don’t invest in AI education—the message is clear:

“You either evolve with AI, or you get left behind,” Eric said.

💡 Takeaway: Adopt an “AI-first mindset.” Whether you’re in sales, marketing, or ops, AI fluency is the new literacy.


7. Omnichannel Marketing Isn’t Optional Anymore

Neil and Eric have doubled down on YouTube, podcasting, webinars, and SEO over the years. Their reasoning? You can’t trust any single platform.

As ChatGPT traffic declines while Reddit and YouTube surge, it’s clear that distribution is fragmented—and always shifting.

“Traffic goes up and down. What matters is: does it correlate with revenue?” Neil said.

💡 Takeaway: Pick 2–3 core channels and own them. Then, diversify. Your content is your asset. Your distribution is your moat.


Final Word: Don't Just Listen, Apply

This episode wasn’t just two marketers riffing—it was a roadmap for anyone trying to build a brand, grow revenue, or survive the next economic wave.

Whether you’re bootstrapping a DTC brand, scaling a SaaS tool, or running an agency from your laptop, these insights are real-world, right-now relevant.

“The best time to invest is when you don’t want to,” Eric quoted Howard Marks.

So what will you invest in—today?