Why Most People Never Find Mastery — And What Robert Greene Wants You to Know

“If You Don’t Know Who You Are, Mastery Will Be Misery.”
For decades, Robert Greene — author of The 48 Laws of Power, Mastery, and The Laws of Human Nature — has been the modern-day Machiavelli for entrepreneurs, creatives, and ambitious souls navigating power and purpose in high-stakes arenas.
But in a rare, intimate conversation with Dr. Michael Gervais on the Finding Mastery podcast, Greene peeled back the curtain revealing not just his philosophies, but the painful path behind them.
This is about struggle, surrender, and the long apprenticeship of becoming.
The Path to Mastery Starts With Self-Discovery
Before you can master a craft, Greene argues, you must understand yourself.
“The first phase of the process is discovering your life’s task,” he says. “That’s the key to everything... If you don’t understand that, the apprenticeship phase will be misery.”
He likens our individuality to a seed. It’s encoded at birth, shaped by our unique DNA, upbringing, and early experiences. But most people never nurture that seed. Instead, they inherit other people’s dreams. They go to law school for money. They follow trends instead of instincts.
And when that happens, the work — the practice, the grind — feels dead.
Why Most People Don’t Reach Mastery
Greene calls out the modern obsession with shortcuts. In a culture of instant gratification, the idea of putting in 10,000+ hours toward a craft feels not just daunting, but irrelevant.
“People are disillusioned about how long it takes. They want it now,” he says. “But when you reach mastery, when the field is inside your mind... there’s no greater joy.”
That joy doesn’t come from chasing applause. It comes from merging with the work. Letting go of ego. Becoming, in a sense, the instrument.
Mastery of Craft Is the Training Ground for Mastery of Self
One of Greene’s most profound insights is that craft and self are inseparable.
“Yourself is the craft and the craft is yourself... Working within the limitations of a craft develops you as a person.”
This isn't about becoming good at writing or design or code. It's about discipline, resilience, and psychological transformation. Your chosen craft – whatever it is – becomes a mirror, a dojo, and a battlefield for the self.
From Failure to Power: Greene’s Pre-Fame Struggle
Robert Greene didn’t publish The 48 Laws of Power until he was nearly 40.
Before that he floundered. A lot.
“I was a failure. I tried journalism, novels, screenwriting... nothing fit. I was depressed. Suicidal even,” he admits. “But I never gave up. There was something in me that wanted to come out.”
That “something” was forged in the fires of rejection, dead-end jobs, and relentless experimentation. He lived in Europe. Worked in hotels. Wrote screenplays that went nowhere.
It wasn’t until a chance encounter with book packager Joost Elffers that things clicked. Greene pitched what would become The 48 Laws of Power, a book he had unknowingly been preparing for his whole life.
A Stroke, a Setback and a Rebirth
In 2018, Greene suffered a near-fatal stroke. He lost the use of his left hand. Daily tasks became battles. Typing became impossible.
And yet... he kept writing.
“I had to learn a whole new set of psychological skills: patience, forgiveness, letting go of perfectionism,” he shares. “I’m now writing a book on the Sublime. But I have to find it in my office, through meditation and looking at the birds outside – not on some grand adventure.”
What was once a philosophy became survival. The resilience behind Greene’s bestsellers was no longer academic, it was embodied.
For the Wantrepreneur: Lessons in Purpose and Direction
If you're in your 20s or 30s and still searching for clarity, Greene has a message:
“Have fun. Try things. But try things with a direction toward something you love. You’ll only master what you emotionally connect with.”
And if you're older, stuck in a job or path that no longer fits?
“Evolve. Adapt. Don’t throw everything away, but pivot toward what resonates. Even one small step can change your whole emotional state.”
Final Thought: Love, Mastery, and the Sublime
At the heart of Greene’s journey – and his forthcoming book – is a simple, ancient truth:
“Love is the escape from the prison of the ego,” he says. “It’s the act of merging with something bigger than yourself. That could be a person, a craft, or the cosmos itself.”
For entrepreneurs, the takeaway is clear: Mastery isn’t just about business or brand.
It’s about meaning.
It’s about finding a path worth committing your life to and becoming someone worthy of walking it.